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Living Your Spiritual Practice
What is it to live this human life in a spiritual way? Zoketsu Norman Fischer, Zen teacher, author and poet shares stories and reflections that offer insights and teaching, helping us define what is really spiritual practice and what supports us in living our best life. This program focuses on his latest book When You Greet Me I Bow, Notes and Reflections From a Life in Zen.
Zoketsu Norman Fischer is a poet, an author and Zen Buddhist priest. For many years he has taught at the San Francisco Zen Center, the oldest and largest of the new Buddhist organizations in the West, where he served as Co-abbot from 1995-2000. He is presently a Senior Dharma Teacher there as well as the founder and spiritual director of the Everyday Zen Foundation, an organization dedicated to adapting Zen Buddhist teachings to Western culture. Norman’s recent book is When You Greet Me I Bow, Notes and Reflections From a Life in Zen.
You can find out more about Zoketsu Norman Fischer, his teaching and books at the websites normanfischer.org and everydayzen.org. You can also find previous conversations with Norman Fischer in our archive at unityonlineradio.org/yoga-hour.
THE YOGA HOUR TEAM COMMENTS: There were many deep spiritual teachings in this program. Even though Norman Fischer is a Zen Buddhist priest and told his stories from a Buddhist perspective, Dr. Trujillo brings in the connection between the practice of Buddhism and Yoga. He reiterated how at the mystical core of all the great religions, there is connection, which is what is taught by the Kriya Yoga masters. I loved Zoketsu’s story, which he says is a canonical story, of the Buddha's wife, but not told very often. The learning from this story is that we can have a spiritual life but we don't have to be a monastic to do that. Dr. Trujillo brought up the teachers in our lineage who were householders and monastics, so we have the same example in the Yogic teachings. I also appreciated his teaching about relationship and that everything in this manifest realm is about relationship. He says "Relationship isn't about what happens or doesn't happen in this life but relationship is life. In Yoga remembering our relationship to our Self is the highest relationship. These were just a couple of my take-aways from this program.
DR. TRUJILLO’S COMMENTS: Norman Fischer’s book is delightful, and I felt privileged to have been able to discuss it with him. I enjoyed seeing the parallels between Buddhism and Yoga in our discussion of the separate self as illusory, the importance of relationship on the spiritual path, and in our discussion of suffering and the need for equanimity. His closing comments about the importance of our individual practice, not only for ourselves but for the world, and the importance of sharing kindness with all whom we meet were timely and a wonderful way to close the show.
Sri Yukteswar, The Incarnation of Wisdom
Swami Sri Yukteswar
Paramahansa Yogananda recognized Sri Yukteswar as his guru the moment he saw him. Sri Yukteswar was humble, learned, and a tough but loving spiritual teacher. Yogacharya O’Brian shares how we can learn, even in modern times, from the wise teachings of this great Kriya Yoga master.
Yogacharya Ellen Grace O’Brian is the founder of the Yoga Hour. She is an acclaimed teacher, poet, award-winning author, and minister who has served seekers of spiritual enlightenment from all walks of life for over forty years. She is the recent recipient of the 2021 New Thought Walden Award for Interfaith and Intercultural Understanding. She has published several books including her latest book, The Jewel of Abundance: Finding Prosperity Through the Ancient Wisdom of Yoga. A teacher in the tradition of Kriya Yoga, Yogacharya O’Brian serves people from all faith backgrounds who are seeking what is known as Self- or God-realization, or awakening and is the spiritual director of the Center for Spiritual Enlightenment, a meditation center in San Jose, CA.
WEBSITES: ELLENGRACEOBRIAN.COM CENTER FOR SPIRITUAL ENLIGHTENMENT
YOGA HOUR TEAM COMMENTS: Yogacharya O’Brian offers us deep teachings from the tradition of Kriya Yoga in just this short hour. Her comments about attunement with the guru offered insight into the connection between the spiritual teacher and their student. She told us that when one has a guru who is steeped in the higher states of consciousness and you are in their presence, you get the experience or soul memory of their consciousness, they share their higher states of consciousness and which creates imprints in our own consciousness. We then take that with us and can draw on that. This is evidence of the importance of being in the physical presence of the guru whenever we can be. Her quote from Sri Yukteswar saying that Kriya Yoga is karma yoga is very important to understand. Kriya Yoga is a path of service. Our devotion, our study, our inner work all leads to serving others, to serving the world around us.
DR. TRUJILLO’S COMMENTS: I learned a lot from this discussion of the great Kriya Yoga teacher, Swami Sri Yukteswar. I appreciated the opportunity to discuss why it is important to study the “states of consciousness and virtuous attitudes and behaviors of spiritually enlightened saints and sages” (as Roy Eugene Davis translated from Patanjali’s Yoga Sutra #1.37) which can provide guidance and inspiration for us on our own spiritual journey. I also welcomed her comments about Swami Sri Yukteswar’s focus that Kriya Yoga is a life of service, and that the culmination of mystical experience lies in serving others. I found the discussion of the yugas, or ages, as outlined in Swami Sri Yukteswar’s book The Holy Science to be hopeful and reassuring. We are in an ascending cycle of our spiritually awakening world, and even thought we see chaos and negativity we are on an upward trajectory for this world becoming more spiritually awake.
Lessons from Lahiri Mahasaya, the Bliss-Filled Father of Kriya Yoga
Yogacharya O’Brian returns to The Yoga Hour to celebrate the life and teachings of Lahiri Mahasaya who revealed where the practical and mystical aspects of our life meet in harmonious accord. Discover how where you are right now is most auspicious for spiritual awakening.
Yogacharya Ellen Grace O’Brian is the founder and spiritual director of the Yoga Hour. She is a spiritual teacher, writer, poet, and the founder and spiritual director of Center for Spiritual Enlightenment—a Kriya Yoga Meditation Center with headquarters in San Jose, California. She teaches nationally and internationally and has received several community service awards, including the Mahatma Gandhi Award for the Promotion of Religious Pluralism and, most recently, the 2021 New Thought Walden Award for Interfaith and Intercultural Understanding. Her latest award-winning bestseller The Jewel of Abundance: Finding Prosperity through the Ancient Wisdom of Yoga was published by New World Library and is available through her website and on Amazon.
Websites: EllenGraceOBrian.com, and the Center for Spiritual Enlightenment CSEcenter.org
THE YOGA HOUR TEAM COMMENTS: A really amazing program today. I learned so much more about Lahiri Mahasaya and how the stories that we have been told about him can be seen as spiritual teaching stories to guide us on our own spiritual journey. There was so much in this episode but one thing that stood out for me was that I loved how Yogacharya O’Brian described the guru. It seemed like she could have gone on and on. Here are a few that she mentioned:
At the simplest level the guru is the teacher. The guru is the matchmaker who introduces you to the love of your life, The guru is everything. The guru is the anchor. The guru is the light that dispels the darkness. The guru means heavy as in profound. The guru is a window to see the vision of the world as holy. The guru is a key unlocking the wisdom of the soul.
Lahiri set an example of living an exemplary spiritual life in the world with a wife, 5 children and a fulltime job. He saw no strata, gender or culture in the soul. He welcomed all who were ready. He is the solid foundation of our Kriya Yoga lineage. Initiation is our link to the lineage and promises guidance on the path. It is reassuring to me that he taught that there is too much to learn in a lifetime, most important is to concentrate on the essence of the teachings. Aum - God and guru's voice within us and Kriya - breath and Vital Force.
There is so much more inspiring content in this interview. I plan to listen to this podcast again.
DR. TRUJILLO’S COMMENTS:It seems that there is always something new to discuss when we talk about Lahiri Mahasaya, and today was no exception. I particularly enjoyed Yogacharya’s discussion of how we can examine the story of Lahiri’s meeting with his guru Babaji, and how we can look for those same elements when we examine our own spiritual journey. I also enjoyed Yogacharya’s comments about how the world is a holy place, and that when we remember this it helps us to live a dharmic life. Lastly, I love Lahiri Mahasaya’s quote: “Keep on keeping on, behold one day the goal.”
Sanskrit: The Language of Yoga
What do those Sanskrit words used in yoga class really mean? Author, Sanskrit teacher, and Ashtanga yoga teacher Zoë Slatoff examines the beauty of commonly used Sanskrit words and explains how understanding and using Sanskrit can deepen our yoga practice.
Zoe Slatoff discovered yoga at the age of 15 and has been devoted to a daily practice ever since. After training with Pattabhi Jois and Sharath in Mysore, India, Zoe was certified to teach. She has a Master’s Degree in Asian Languages and Culture from Columbia University, and is the author of Yogavataranam, a Sanskrit textbook for yoga students which uses extracts from classical yoga texts to integrate traditional and academic methods for learning the language.
Book discussed in this episode: Yogavataranam available at Amazon
Website: www.ashtangayogaupperwestside.com
THE YOGA HOUR TEAM COMMENTS: For those of us on the yoga path, this program about Sanskrit, the language of yoga, was a very informative and important program, even if we don't really want to study the language deeply. We often hear these Sanskrit words and don't really understand their significance for our practice and our study. Zoe Slatoff's years of study of this language and of the practice of Hatha (pronounced “huta”) yoga and of Yoga philosophy is very supportive of our study. She addressed why it is useful to understand some of the Sanskrit we hear. She said some study helps us to pronounce the words properly and it helps us understand the deeper meaning of the words. Often the words have several different meanings. Zoe offered practical information about how to pronounce some common words that we hear in Hatha Yoga classes as well as words from the scriptures like The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. She also offered how beginners who are wanting to learn some basics to deepen their practice can learn.
COMMENTS FROM DR. TRUJILLO: I really enjoyed our conversation about Sanskrit: The Language of Yoga, and the our discussion of many Sanskrit words that are common in Hatha yoga class, as well as several from Patanjali’s Yoga Sutras. I was interested to read the list in herbook of the 78 definitions of the word yoga from V.S. Apte’s dictionary which include union, fitness, plan, zeal, opportunity, and wealth. This gave listeners an idea of the challenges of translating from Sanskrit into English. I appreciated her advice for those who want to deepen their study of yoga by learning more about Sanskrit, but aren’t ready to devote the time to reading Sanskrit themselves. You advised them to read multiple English translations of the same Sanskrit material from different translators, or to chant in Sanskrit. She has wonderful supportive audio files on her website for listeners to follow up with if desired.
Finding the Path to Inner Bravery
How do we find the inner courage to face ourselves, others, and the unknown? Poet and spiritual leader Mark Nepo, author of Finding Inner Courage, reflects on how the power of honest inquiry in times of loss and uncertainty can ignite deep reflection and motivate action.
Mark Nepo has moved and inspired readers and seekers all over the world with his #1 New York Timesbest seller The Book of Awakening. He has published 22 books including Drinking from the River of Light and has recorded 15 audio projects. In 2015, he was given a Life Achievement Award by AgeNation. In 2016, he was named by Watkins: Mind Body Spirit as one of the 100 Most Spiritually Influential Living People, and he was also chosen as one of OWN’s SuperSoul 100, a group of inspired leaders using their gifts and voices to elevate humanity. In 2017 Mark became a regular columnist for Spirituality and Health magazine. In this episode we are discussing Mark’s most recent book Finding Inner Courage.
Mark Nepo’s Websites are MarkNepo.com ThreeIntentions.com For more information and to sign up for Mark’s upcoming webinar, THE FIRE OF ALIVENESS: COMING BACK INTO THE WORLD go to live.marknepo.com
Mark Nepo’s books are available at Amazon.com
THE YOGA HOUR TEAM COMMENTS: Courage: to stand by one's core. This is definitely a powerful and timely discussion. There is so much to contemplate here. If we want to overcome violence of the world, we need to face what is ours to face - feel what is ours to feel. Rather than running from suffering, we must help each other through it. The heart breathes by feeling and receiving, then exhales by expressing and emptying. You don't want to miss this life changing and a heart opening conversation.
DR. TRUJILLO’S COMMENTS: Although Finding Inner Courage is one of is one of Mark’s older books, I thought the topic was so helpful and so relevant to the challenges we are facing today. I loved how he shared the meaning of the word courage as coming from the Latin word cor, which means heart. He further described that when we stand by our core, we stand by the core of all being, which as I mentioned is the essence of yoga. I also particularly liked his four learnings “to explore the art of feeling (inhaling our experience) and emptying (exhaling our experience), which when leaned into can help us live.” These were: letting what is lead the way; expressing what remains unexpressed; acknowledging and forgiving our unconscious participation in life; keeping our mind open. Such wonderful teachings to share with our listeners!
The Ancient Science of Yoga: Unity and Liberation for All
In this time of increased awareness of racial disharmony, how does the study of yoga’s ancient roots invite us into greater empathy? Author and teacher Susanna Barkataki discusses how embracing yoga’s roots supports greater inclusivity and connection with each other and the world. In this program we are discussing Susanna’s book Embrace Yoga’s Roots: Courageous Ways to Deepen Your Yoga Practice.
Susanna Barkataki, is a Certified Yoga Therapist, teacher, inclusivity promoter, and yoga culture advocate. As an Indian yoga practitioner in the Shankaracharya tradition, her passion is to help others bridge the gap between yoga as an exercise and yoga as a lifestyle. She is founder of Ignite Yoga and Wellness Institute and runs 200/500 Yoga Teacher Training programs. Susanna has an honors degree in Philosophy from UC Berkeley and a Masters in Education from Cambridge College. She is also a certified diversity, accessibility, inclusivity, and equity educator.
websites: SusannaBarkataki.com Ignite Yoga and Wellness Institute
THE YOGA HOUR TEAM COMMENTS: Susanna shares that yoga is a very deep philosophy that has not been respected due to different reasons, but racism and disrespect for the culture from which it comes are important reasons. Susanna's book focuses on how yoga has been culturally appropriated in the west and the teachers often ignore, sterilize and dilute the actual deeper teachings of yoga without respect to the culture and history from which it comes, in order to make it more "palatable" for the white culture. She says that this violates several of the important teachings of yoga, ahimsa-harmlessness, satya-truthfulness and asteya-non stealing. She uses the example of how the greeting Namaste is misused and disrespected. The goal of the practice of yoga is liberation, liberation for ourselves and for all. She shares these four questions that she uses to guide her life: 1) Is this action causing separation? 2) Am I embracing yoga's roots and my own values? 3) Does this action create connection? 4) Does this action lead to unity and liberation for myself and for all. Does it contribute to human uplift? In this time of greater awareness of racial injustice for so many, I hope to be able to regularly incorporate these useful questions into a framework for my life.
DR. TRUJILLO’S COMMENTS: I particularly appreciated Susanna’s focus on defining yoga as that which unites, and non-yoga as that which divides. Her distinction between cultural appropriation and cultural appreciation was quite helpful. The four questions she talked about for reflection before taking an action were very useful. (Does this action cause separation? Am I embracing both my and the culture of origin’s roots? Does this action create connection? Does it lead to unity and liberation?)
Healing from Anxiety
How can we find inner peace and lessen our anxiety even in times of chaos? Guest Hala Khouri, therapist and yoga teacher, discusses practical strategies to understand our body’s signals so we can release stress and find healing.
Hala Khouri, MA, has been teaching yoga and movement for over 25 years and has been doing clinical work and trainings for 15 years. Originally from Beirut, Lebanon, she has dedicated her life to the study of trauma and building resilience on a personal, interpersonal, and systemic level. Hala is a co-founder of Off the Mat, Into the World, a training organization that bridges yoga and activism within a social justice framework. She is a sought-after speaker and trainer on the subject of trauma, yoga, and social justice and author of the book we are discussing today, Peace from Anxiety; Get Grounded, Build Resilience and Stay Connected Amidst the Chaos.
THE YOGA HOUR TEAM COMMENTS: A wonderfully encouraging conversation. I resonate with Hala Khouri’s emphasis on the need to go beyond our inner work in order to make peace with trauma and anxiety. She relates that the feeling of warmth and belonging which comes with developing a relationship ecosystem provides a necessary support for healing. "It helps you feel like you are held by something bigger than you." I also like Hala’s vision of changing our stress impulse from the fright-flight-freeze reaction to a tend and befriend response. She considers it a "radical act of social justice" to move our stress, anxiety and trauma response from a stance of strength and power to one of understanding and assisting. Particularly powerful is her concluding message of positivity: to find joy in the journey without letting trauma and anxiety get in the way.
DR. TRUJILLO’S COMMENTS: I enjoyed our conversation about healing from anxiety, and appreciated that Hala Khouri says that healing needs to go beyond the personal to the interpersonal and global levels. She says that one of the first ways to transform our trauma into personal growth is to look for support, and that this support can come from our networks of connections which can include our neighbors and work colleagues in addition to our core relationships with family and close friends. Hala shared an important practice, that of orienting ourselves: noticing what we notice when we look around our environment or when we look within ourselves, and how often we notice the negative ( for example; what needs to be cleaned, where in our bodies we are holding tension) rather than what is beautiful or working well. This orienting or noticing can be part of how we feel the support that we need when dealing with anxiety.
Stop Reacting and Reclaim Your Power
How can understanding our triggers help us find peace and lasting emotional well-being? Psychotherapist David Richo, Ph.D., author of Triggers, discusses how we can look deeply at the roots of what provokes us so we can develop the resources to stay calm under pressure and to heal.
David Richo, Ph.D, is a psychotherapist, writer, and workshop leader whose work emphasizes the benefits of mindfulness and loving kindness in personal growth and emotional well-being. He is the author of several books including How to Be an Adult in Relationships and The Five Things We Cannot Change. The book we are discussing in this episode is Triggers: How We Can Stop Reacting and Start Healing.
SHOW NOTES: Dr. Richo’s website is DaveRicho.com His books are available HERE
THE YOGA HOUR TEAM COMMENTS:I found this conversation on triggers to be interesting and enlightening. Being triggered is common to most of us and it helps us to understand what the trigger is, discern where it comes from and then make choices to lessen or overcome it. Dr. Richo said a trigger moves you into a reaction that you don't choose. When you are able to choose that is freedom. Triggers come from our fight or flight system which is a necessary survival mechanism. Our thinking brain turns off when the fear center of our brain is triggered. Dr. Richo says that the good news is that we are not totally at the mercy of our triggers, if we can pause until our thinking mind comes back online, then we have a choice. Meditation is one way to train ourselves to be able to pause before we react. I appreciated his re-stated version of the Serenity Prayer. It supports us in accepting what cannot be changed. You find the inner resource that supports you and then you realize that that inner resource is God or however you perceive God to be. He shared that saying yes to what is, accepting what we cannot change, turns the triggers into opportunities for spiritual growth. I appreciated his simple examples of what some triggers could be and also his examples of some ways we can deal with these triggers.
DR. TRUJILLO’S COMMENTS: I enjoyed our conversation about triggers and the science behind them, as well as the work we can each do to be triggered into curiosity rather than reaction when they occur. I appreciated Dr. Richo’s rephrasing of the serenity prayer as “May I have the serenity to accept what can’t be changed, the courage to change what is ready to be changed, and the wisdom to know the difference”, as well as your daily affirmation of "May I say yes to all that happens to me today as an opportunity to love more and fear less.” I think our discussion of inner resources like courage, wisdom, serenity, and self-discipline will be helpful to our listeners as they explore the forest of their own triggers and reactions.